Subject	In addition,
Posted by	Lee Darzycki (SanJose) on May 23, 2002 at 8:20 PM
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In Reply To	not a good idea for competition.. posted by Lee Darzycki (SanJose) on May 23, 2002 at 10:57 AM
Message	: We learned during the OTC that they only had about 3 good laps in them before they overheated and lap times dropped. Overall grip isn't as good as some of the other higher end R rated tires too. : But they are durable, long lasting, can drive on them to and from the track, and they are relatively cheap. In addition, since we were only getting about 3 good laps from them each session, we would drive hot for about 2-3 laps, take one lap really easy to bring down the temps, take a hot lap, take another very slow cooldown lap, another hot lap, etc.. Hoosiers-Track (not autox grade), and Pilot Sport Cups on the other hand would run great nonestop, without much, if any drop off from overheating. As long as you didn't beat the crap out of the tires from excessive oversteer or excessive understeer. I've never collected any data on the Kuhmos V700, but can only assume that they also don't drop off much, if any since they are used successfully, and win, at the SCCA Valvoline Runoffs National races at Mid-Ohio. Lee Darzycki Red '93 300ZX TwinTurbo ClubZ-Track Event Organizer www.ClubZ.org San Francisco Bay Area 300ZX Club >>> ClubZ Track Division <<< !!! Z ya at the Track !!!!
Follow Ups	Tire guys please, I need some advise. I need 2 find.... - Good2Zya 20:25:39 05/22/02 Michelin Pilot Sport Cup, period. (n/m) - Zster (Z-less) 20:27:46 05/22/02 O btw Fred>>> - Zster (Z-less) 20:40:42 05/22/02 very nice info (n/m) - snoguitar 20:46:38 05/22/02 Thanks =) (n/m) - Zster (Z-less) 20:52:08 05/22/02 Run the 265/35/18 front and 285/30/18 in rear>> - Zster (Z-less) 20:47:41 05/22/02 think steve millen would even touch an SGP car? lol (n/m) - snoguitar 20:54:43 05/22/02 Good point. Looks like I'll be driving then, hehe - Zster (Z-less) 20:57:41 05/22/02 Hell, I may just take you up on that offer. No kidding (n/m) - Good2Zya 21:15:36 05/22/02 True...Might be too much for him? lol (n/m) - Good2Zya 21:11:58 05/22/02 Thanks Salah. Lot's of good info in your post - Good2Zya 21:03:44 05/22/02 Do you have an EDFC? Are the springs in the RA linear? - Zster (Z-less) 21:17:37 05/22/02 Man, I THINK they R progessive, but I don't know... - Good2Zya 21:30:26 05/22/02 EDFC>>>> - Zster (Z-less) 21:45:38 05/22/02 Ahhh yes. I asked them about that. It wont fit on a Z - Good2Zya 22:08:53 05/22/02 Bummer!!! - Zster (Z-less) 22:38:16 05/22/02 Don't worry about EDFC. Once you do the testing, you - Glenn (San Jose) 23:17:04 05/22/02 As far as setting up suspensions for roadrace - Mike (La Canada) 21:58:53 05/22/02 If your going to tune the chassis, then, - Lee Darzycki (SanJose) 10:40:31 05/23/02 For the road course, I would dial in -2.5 degrees in - Glenn (San Jose) 23:08:30 05/22/02 My mistake. We ran -2.0 in the rear. (n/m) - Glenn (San Jose) 23:23:44 05/22/02 Glenn is right. -1.5 is too little for the rear on the.. - Lee Darzycki (SanJose) 23:50:46 05/22/02 So have you guys shed off all the sunburnt skin? - Zster (Z-less) 23:54:16 05/22/02 #45 Sunblock works wonders. Rebuild starts in 2 weeks>> - Glenn (San Jose) 00:10:04 05/23/02 OTC sunburn.. - Lee Darzycki (SanJose) 01:03:28 05/23/02 Thats how I felt about it>> - Zster (Z-less) 01:47:40 05/23/02 actually... - Lee Darzycki (SanJose) 06:20:09 05/23/02 Listen to these guys, they know what they are talking about! - Zster (Z-less) 23:55:33 05/22/02 This is one of the best threads i have seen in a long time (n/m) - SteamyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 01:11:39 05/23/02 I run -2.5 front, -3.0 rear..... - RSR 06:30:23 05/23/02 What tire temps did you get in the rear? - Lee Darzycki (SanJose) 10:43:04 05/23/02 S03's (n/m) - CaptanZap(TT + NA) 20:33:01 05/22/02 basically a street tire.Not for serious tracking/competition - Lee Darzycki (SanJose) 11:03:33 05/23/02 A-032R. 60 treadwear :) (n/m) - snoguitar 20:37:48 05/22/02 not a good idea for competition.. - Lee Darzycki (SanJose) 10:57:37 05/23/02 In addition, - Lee Darzycki (SanJose) 20:20:23 05/23/02 what size are your rims? - Mike (La Canada) 21:53:11 05/22/02 They are 9.5's in the rear, and 9's in front (n/m) - Good2Zya 22:11:07 05/22/02 I meant 17" or 18. Cuz mose race tires only go to 17's - Mike (La Canada) 23:57:28 05/22/02 Mike, will you be going with Hoosiers if you get - Glenn (San Jose) 00:16:15 05/23/02 Yup, I have 18s also (n/m) - Good2Zya 00:59:42 05/23/02 Pilot Sport Cups. We just finished competing in the - Glenn (San Jose) 23:01:30 05/22/02 OTC data - Lee Darzycki (SanJose) 23:56:57 05/22/02 Its the Shorter Willow Springs Track. The 1 on the hillside (n/m) - Good2Zya 01:11:04 05/23/02 both are on a hillside. Your probably talking about - Lee Darzycki (SanJose) 06:23:03 05/23/02 We did really well at this short track. We ran - Glenn (San Jose) 08:28:05 05/23/02 Oh we also advanced the timing for better low end response. - Glenn (San Jose) 08:31:51 05/23/02 Why not Toyos? -> - Kevin (CA) 23:05:04 05/22/02 RA1's are not made in big enough sizes for our Z's, - Glenn (San Jose) 23:28:56 05/22/02 Also the RA1s are a little more durable than the Kumho>> - Zster (Z-less) 23:51:44 05/22/02 Salah? Where do you get your information from? - Lee Darzycki (SanJose) 10:53:54 05/23/02 The couple of events I've been going to this year>> - Zster (Z-less) 11:23:29 05/23/02 another tire comment, and OTC experience - Lee Darzycki (SanJose) 00:12:12 05/23/02 Thanks Glen. I have 18s and I kinda have 2 go... - Good2Zya 01:06:17 05/23/02 Are you sure you want to stay with 18"? - Lee Darzycki (SanJose) 05:58:26 05/23/02 Fred Listen to me! - Carlos Ramirez 06:04:11 05/23/02 wow salah did good job in responding.. - Carlos Ramirez 06:15:08 05/23/02 understeer/oversteer - Lee Darzycki (SanJose) 06:30:33 05/23/02 BFG R-1's (n/m) - NSANY(ATL) 06:24:51 05/23/02 If you can get them, but they still don't hold up to - Lee Darzycki (SanJose) 10:47:43 05/23/02 yokos. any yoko. well, not any yoko. (n/m) - josh 07:14:54 05/23/02
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